Official Soccer/football Thread

[Bean Dip]

That's right, i said it, football. Best sport ever in the history of ever. discuss its awesomeness and how awesome it truly is. awesome!

[booom]

That's right, i said it, football. Best sport ever in the history of ever. discuss its awesomeness and how awesome it truly is. awesome!
I like SOCCER but it's not the best sport. It's a good sport but not the best sport. Where is the manliness(no hom0) or the toughness? Yeah running up and down a field for 3 hours gets tiring but FOOTBALL is a man's sport.


Educate me some and i might become a fan.. I do like FIFA.

[An Epic Name]

At least you didn't steal the layout of the same thread found at Neogaf this time!!!!

[An Epic Name]

Boom, if you have ever played soccer competitively, you would know that it is easily one of the most physically demanding sports. The games are actually really aggressive too. If you and another guy are chasing after a stray ball, you aren't just gonna run side by side holding hands. Theres a lot of underhand stuff going on, it can get dirty, especially British soccer.

[Dutycalls]

That's right, i said it, football. Best sport ever in the history of ever. discuss its awesomeness and how awesome it truly is. awesome!
I like SOCCER but it's not the best sport. It's a good sport but not the best sport. Where is the manliness(no hom0) or the toughness? Yeah running up and down a field for 3 hours gets tiring but FOOTBALL is a man's sport.


Educate me some and i might become a fan.. I do like FIFA.
A good sport isn't judged on it's manliness. It's judged on it's necessity for athleticism and intelligence. You would be a certifiable idiot to say that it doesn't take any of those two. I'm not saying you didn't though.

The best way to fathom the skill is to actually try what they're doing. The kick that they're taking from (what you think is) 10 feet away, is much farther than you think. Then, bend the ball just like he did. Then, get some crazy foreign defenders that want to rape your mother. Then, get 30,000 psychopathic fans, screaming in your face and ripping down the stands to kill you.

I know, a little dramatic, but it's obviously not for everyone. There is toughness, but it's not, knock your teeth out tough. It's endurance tough. There is the physical toughness after running up and down for 3 hours and getting cleeted in the ankle and getting back up and doing it again.

Oh and getting cleeted is in the top 5 most painful common things to happen to me in sports.

[Bean Dip]

Ya jeff I was too lazy to ctrl+v.

But football is very phsically demanding and requires the most endurance. The longest game I ever played was a 90 minute game that we tied, then had a 30 min over time then penalty shootouts. The game started at 10. And ended at 1. You'll never feel more tired then that anytime else. And you can't really compare am. Football and real football cause they both require different athletes. Am. Football needs big strong guys. Real football needs toned, quick, sexy, guys. And your legs will never be the same after a season of real football. It's boring to watch for most people. But I find it entertaining.

[An Epic Name]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3G4CfQE ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3G4CfQEno0&feature=related)
Watch that and tell me Soccer is a pussy sport. That has to be one of the most painful looking things I have ever seen.

[Anoxy]

lol yikes

But, go liverpool!

Fucking Man U got what they deserved, the far better team shat all over them. Cristiano Ronaldo is a joke...lol at him getting all butthurt at the end and trying to hurt the bigger stronger Puyol.

[booom]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3G4CfQEno0&feature=related
Watch that and tell me Soccer is a pussy sport. That has to be one of the most painful looking things I have ever seen.
wat? Every sport has horrible injuries.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImxR20TgNA0

I agree it's a physically demanding sport but no homo, you don't see soccer players looking like T.O or being in 100% perfect physical shape.


I like soccer, i just don't think it's the best sport.

[Bean Dip]

Liverpool can suck my left nut. Except for alonso and torres of course.

And ronaldo played much better then messi. Even though he was taking cheap shots on puyol. The only reason they lost was cause of their defense. They were playing like shit. How do you have ronaldo Rooney tevez and berba in and not score wtf. I'm sad marquez missed the final though.

[Anoxy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3G4CfQEno0&feature=related
Watch that and tell me Soccer is a pussy sport. That has to be one of the most painful looking things I have ever seen.
wat? Every sport has horrible injuries.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImxR20TgNA0

I agree it's a physically demanding sport but no homo, you don't see soccer players looking like T.O or being in 100% perfect physical shape.

I like soccer, i just don't think it's the best sport.
lol at 100% perfect physical shape. That's all relative to your sport. You can't say the world's best lawyer is going to be the best marketing manager, that's just comparing apples and oranges. Michael Jordan sucked dick at baseball. In a sport like american football, players train to become big and muscular by following strict weightlifting (usually large weight and low reps) and dieting regimens developed by their personal trainer who probably makes six figures.

[Anoxy]

In soccer, on the other hand, players are working on training to meet the demands of muscular endurance, which is usually high reps and lower weight so that their bodies can last/perform longer. They are doing high intensity cardiovascular sessions so that they can be moving throughout all 90 minutes of the game continuously and are able to make that long sprint up the sideline or to goal. I rarely see a professional soccer player who has more than 6% bodyfat...they are in top shape for what they are paid to do. If soccer players trained like football players, they would sacrifice that speed and quickness for body mass which is next to obsolete (unless you're a defender) in soccer. Arguably one of the top players in soccer right now is Lionel Messi and he is only 5'2"!

Point is, they are good sports in their own aspects, and Americans may never understand soccer the way that europeans do, or cycling the way that europeans do. But, in my opinion, don't knock something until you've played at its highest level.

/schooling you srs style

[Bean Dip]

what anoxy said.

and this is one of my fav soccer pics, even though its liverpool

[Chopper]

what anoxy said.

and this is one of my fav soccer pics, even though its liverpool
[img]http://d.yimg.com/i/ng/sp/p5/20090411/14/3362141618.jpg[/ig]
I don't get it =/

[Bean Dip]

what anoxy said.

and this is one of my fav soccer pics, even though its liverpool
[img]http://d.yimg.com/i/ng/sp/p5/20090411/14/3362141618.jpg[/ig]
I don't get it =/
its not supposed to be funny or anything lol. its just an inspirational picture that i like

[bosoxdanc]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3G4CfQEno0&feature=related
Watch that and tell me Soccer is a pussy sport. That has to be one of the most painful looking things I have ever seen.

That's awesome.
I really wished I had gotten more into Soccer during high school.
Indoor is a lot of fun also.

[An Epic Name]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3G4CfQEno0&feature=related
Watch that and tell me Soccer is a pussy sport. That has to be one of the most painful looking things I have ever seen.

That's awesome.
I really wished I had gotten more into Soccer during high school.
Indoor is a lot of fun also.
I prefer indoor over outdoor. It's so much more fast paced due to no throw ins, and the small amount of people playing at a time gives you a much more active role.

[Anoxy]

Well, the inconsistencies with outdoor soccer in america is that the fields are always horrible and the grass is far too long. The grass should really be a tad longer than golf greens....but we get fucking swamps. So, yes I would agree, unless I am playing on turf, indoor soccer is a lot more fun. But if I have a nicely shaven outdoor field, I will choose that first because you get to make better runs, play long balls and get nice crosses and such.

[tubby]

lol soccer

im going to sit and watch a sport that scores 1 goal a game

even hockey has more goals scored and the net is small as shit.

[bosoxdanc]

lol soccer

im going to sit and watch a sport that scores 1 goal a game

even hockey has more goals scored and the net is small as shit.

The puck is also small as shit, lol.

[tubby]

lol soccer

im going to sit and watch a sport that scores 1 goal a game

even hockey has more goals scored and the net is small as shit.

The puck is also small as shit, lol.
so? you still have a small net with a goalie in it, which when has his pads on, takes up the majority of the net.

[Desabrais]

I used to love soccer. I always played outdoor because indoor was during hockey. I actually used to play goalie as well. I'd say soccer players are the most in-shape athletes as far as professional sports go. Without the use of steroids (Baseball, football) that is.

[Anoxy]

Hockey is an amazing sport, and I looooveee watching it...they don't have a hockey team here so during winter term I would go down to University of Oregon and watch their club team play...they are pretty damn good.

But, honestly, if you can't appreciate soccer because they don't score a lot of goals, then you are a lost cause. The point is to watch their touches, their amazing passes, footwork, speed, tackles, keeper saves, shots, strategies, and insane free kicks bent around walls of people. Few goals is more fun because it makes them that much sweeter...it's like getting head for 60 minutes and then blowing your load finally when they score. If you don't like it, you don't like it...go watch american football.

[tubby]

nascar > soccer

[Bean Dip]

nascar > soccer


Ya anoxy i love watching hockey too. Soccer is so satisfying to watch when your watching the right teams. When you watch an MLS team, it makes me want to vomit. They play so terribly and boring. Our college soccer is the cause of this mainly. If you watch national teams play then you can really appreciate it. Watch one game from the confederations cup coming up in 2 weeks i think? thats when you can really enjoy it. or watch a match with soccer fans and you'll love it.

I have played on some of the worse pitches ever. When i went to mexico, i played on the best pitch I have ever seen. it made me play the game so much differently, quick touches and fast low passes. it was amazing

[Anoxy]

Yeah the surface really changes the game. I love college soccer, it's some of the most intense soccer because it's so fast paced.

[DRD.]

Indoor> outdoor. I think my favorite part is just how fast paced it is. I used to play then tore my ACL and MCL. Couldn't do anything for 10 months and just couldn't get back into it. I ref now though so its still fun to be a part of it.

[Anoxy]

Yeah indoor is a blast but sometimes I get sick of it and want some outdoor action....plus there is more competition outdoors.

[Chopper]

Anyone have FIFA09 on PS3?

[Bean Dip]

only on 360. but i heard ps3 has better controls for sports games like fifa.

and indoor is fun but outdoor will always top it.

[Kaapuetz]

I used to love soccer. I always played outdoor because indoor was during hockey. I actually used to play goalie as well. I'd say soccer players are the most in-shape athletes as far as professional sports go. Without the use of steroids (Baseball, football) that is.
Swimming has the most in-shape athletes, most definitely. But, every professional athlete is fit as fuck obviously.

Soccer amazes me, especially the goalies. Do they really have that fast reflexes or do they just have educated guesses on where the ball is going to go, lol.

[x A n D y]

Kay as long as soccer is being called soccer than this gay thread can stay up.

[Anoxy]

Once again, "most in-shape" is all relative to your sport of choice. Lance Armstrong is a fucking animal on the bike, but when he ran the New York Marathon to promote Livestrong, he said it was the most difficult thing he's ever done.

So.......stop throwing around that term.

[Bean Dip]

The only reason why football isnt shown on usa networks is because the inability to show commercials during the game. During half time is when people walk away from the TV and they can't capitalize on revenue. The sport is growing and ticket sells from the World Cup show that besides South Africa, USA has the most ticket sales

[An Epic Name]

Who else wants to go to the 2010 World Cup in S. Africa with me and get HIV while watching Soccer?!

[Anoxy]

Me. Cause there is a cure for HIV, just no funding for it.

[Dutycalls]

Just saw Green Street Hooligans this morning on my iPod.

Such a great fucking movie. I now respect Elijah Wood so much for that movie.

Though I wish that Van-Whatever dude would've gotten (greatest line from the movie) 7 shades of shit beaten out of him.

[Bean Dip]

Who else wants to go to the 2010 World Cup in S. Africa with me and get HIV while watching Soccer?!
I would seriously go if i had the money and were lucky enough to get tickets

[Jester]

Nascar > soccer

[An Epic Name]

Lies > Soccer

[Bean Dip]

Nascar > soccer

nascar > soccer
you think the same way as tubby, your post is invalid

[Anoxy]

Formula One > The world.

Those cars are actually so sick...Nascars look fuckin stupid.

[tubby]

sh0ck > soccer

[S7ubS]

Keep it on topic fellaz

[tubby]

Formula One > The world.

Those cars are actually so sick...Nascars look fuckin stupid.
ya nascar is so lame. show me an engine that can run at 800hp for 500 miles at high rpm constantly.

[booom]

Keep it on topic fellaz
Seriously, do this. If you guys want to make fun of eachother, go to OT or the shit talk thread.
If this keeps up, I will start warning people.

[Ken]

Keep it on topic fellaz
Seriously, do this. If you guys want to make fun of eachother, go to OT or the shit talk thread.
If this keeps up, I will start warning people.


Im a little confused at what the topic is...is it football? like the jets, bills, vikings, etc, etc?
or is this soccer? like usa, belgium....you know that shitty game where you cant touch the ball with your hands..the game for amputees?

[S7ubS]

Well it says soccer...

[An Epic Name]

Im a little confused at what the topic is...is it football? like the jets, bills, vikings, etc, etc?
or is this soccer? like usa, belgium....you know that shitty game where you cant touch the ball with your hands..the game for amputees?
Goalies and throw-ins bro.

[Bean Dip]

Seriously, do this. If you guys want to make fun of eachother, go to OT or the shit talk thread.
If this keeps up, I will start warning people.


Im a little confused at what the topic is...is it football? like the jets, bills, vikings, etc, etc?
or is this soccer? like usa, belgium....you know that shitty game where you cant touch the ball with your hands..the game for amputees?
aaaand this is why soccer will never be appreciated in USA. Border line retards that know nothing about the game. You realize that we are the only country that calls it soccer. When football makes much more sense.

btw USA lost to italy 3-1 and Brazil 3-0 this morning. Kind of expected but still disappointing, They can redeem themselves with a win against Egypt.

[tubby]

it will never be called football here when the real football is more popular and better.

[Bean Dip]

[Desabrais]

i lol'ed

[bosoxdanc]

Omg that's hilarious.

[tubby]

sweet

when soccer exceeds football in popularity in this country, come talk to me.

[An Epic Name]

sweet

when soccer exceeds football in popularity in this country, come talk to me.
When football exceeds the popularity of soccer in ANY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD, talk to us.

:]

[Desabrais]

Football>soccer in Canada.

[An Epic Name]

Football>soccer in Canada.
I said countries not faggot gatherings

[tubby]

sweet

when soccer exceeds football in popularity in this country, come talk to me.
When football exceeds the popularity of soccer in ANY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD, talk to us.

:]
yeah but what country do you live in?

[An Epic Name]

idk but I'm prob tubbys bitch either way :(

[Desabrais]

Football>soccer in Canada.
I said countries not faggot gatherings
Don't you ever call my countrymen a bundle of sticks again.

[Anoxy]

There are quite a few sticks in canada.

and rofl at that picture bean dip, beautifully put.

Popularity is the worst argument that handegg fans can use. Everyone who isn't a sheltered, nascar-watching hoakie knows that football is the most popular sport in the world. Easy.

[tubby]

yeah but we live in the united states where football is the most popular sport.

also basketball is swiftly gaining on soccer. 2 billion chinese in love with it.

[Anoxy]

The United States is 4.5% of the world's population.

I would bet the other 95% don't give a shit about American football. The only notification of the sport they get is the t-shirts/gear that were made for the losing team of the superbowl in case they won.

Until american football is played on a world-wide level, it is insignificant compared to soccer.

[bosoxdanc]

The United States is 4.5% of the world's population.

I would bet the other 95% don't give a shit about American football. The only notification of the sport they get is the t-shirts/gear that were made for the losing team of the superbowl in case they won.

Until american football is played on a world-wide level, it is insignificant compared to soccer.

They all play that retarded Rugby shit.

[Anoxy]

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_m ... _the_world (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_most_popular_sport_in_the_world)

I win. Everyone go die.

[tubby]

The United States is 4.5% of the world's population.

I would bet the other 95% don't give a shit about American football. The only notification of the sport they get is the t-shirts/gear that were made for the losing team of the superbowl in case they won.

Until american football is played on a world-wide level, it is insignificant compared to soccer.
you still live in that 4.5%. i win

also canada has it's own football league as well as europe.

MLS gets less viewership here than the NHL does. oh and also less than nascar. major worldwide soccer matches are shown on ESPN 2 IF THAT. a lot of people don't get espn 2

i can keep going, you can keep bringing up your most popular sport in the world fact, the thing is it's not popular here, get over it.

[Anoxy]

I can't even begin to say how much you failed right there. You do understand that the United States is part of the WORLD? Do you not?

That would mean you and I are both part of the 6billion+ people or the 100%. We are not only part of the 4.5%, we are part of the other 95% as well you fool.

Typical Americans who think they are the center of the universe :roll: . Get some perspective, we make up a mere fraction of this world.

Read my previous post, then talk.

[tubby]

I can't even begin to say how much you failed right there. You do understand that the United States is part of the WORLD? Do you not?

That would mean you and I are both part of the 6billion+ people or the 100%. We are not only part of the 4.5%, we are part of the other 95% as well you fool.

Typical Americans who think they are the center of the universe :roll: . Get some perspective, we make up a mere fraction of this world.

Read my previous post, then talk.
you live in that 4.5% my point still stands

it's not being the "center of the universe", it's being correct. YOU LIVE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WHERE SOCCER IS NOT THAT POPULAR. get over it already.

[Anoxy]

I can't even begin to say how much you failed right there. You do understand that the United States is part of the WORLD? Do you not?

That would mean you and I are both part of the 6billion+ people or the 100%. We are not only part of the 4.5%, we are part of the other 95% as well you fool.

Typical Americans who think they are the center of the universe :roll: . Get some perspective, we make up a mere fraction of this world.

Read my previous post, then talk.
you live in that 4.5% my point still stands

it's not being the "center of the universe", it's being correct. YOU LIVE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WHERE SOCCER IS NOT THAT POPULAR. get over it already.

WE LIVE IN THE WORLD WHERE FOOTBALL IS THE MOST POPULAR SPORT. Get it through your thick head. This is horrible, I feel like I'm talking to a parrot.

[tubby]

You're the one with the thick head, you're basically saying the same thing as me. You live in the United States of America where Soccer is not that popular.

I said the same thing as you, yet I'm thick headed and you're not? get real.

I also live in the United States of America where FOOTBALL is the most popular sport.

Jesus I feel like I'm talking a brick wall right now.

I understand what you're saying, you seem to have a problem comprehending what I'm saying.

[tubby]

You seem to think I'm trying to prove that it's not the most popular sport in the world. I know that it is, I'm saying it's not popular here which is very much a fact.

That link that you provided earlier is horribly inaccurate. 10) Basketball Not more than 400M Fans. (U.S, Canada mainly) This is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever read. The US vs China Olympic basketball game was the MOST VIEWED EVENT in World History. China is currently undergoing a project to create over 800 MILLION basketball courts through out China. Please tell me how the most popular sport in the most populous country is number 10 in the world? Not to mention the immense popularity of it in the United States as well as its rising popularity in Europe. I can point out other facts wrong with that link but I'm not going to get into it.

[Anoxy]

Sorry to break it to you, but you don't have the credentials to say what is fact and what is not lol.

Here let me break down why Football is the most popular sport in the world regardless of where I live.

[Czechy]

Alright boys. Lets knock it off.

[tubby]

Get some reading comprehension. I acknowledged that soccer is the most popular sport in the world. You seem to have a problem with the fact (yes fact) that soccer simply is not that popular in this country (which is the country which you live in). You are an American citizen. Your passport says it, your social security card proves it. If you get into trouble in a foreign country you would run to an American embassy. There is no world embassy. Any foreigner would consider you an American not a world citizen. Your little world point is getting a little bit redundant.

So keep trying to press the same thing over and over, I will keep proving that soccer is not that popular in the USA.

[Anoxy]

LOL at you changing your argument now.

I don't give a shit about the United States. While you've been over there singing yankee doodle, I've been explaining that it's indeed the most popular in the world, which, frankly, is what matters.

I could care less if it's not "popular in the United States"
We all know that's because 45 minutes without commercials is completely unheard of on American television. Our country would fall into another recession without advertisements every time out and penalty.


So keep trying to press the same thing over and over, I will keep proving that soccer is not that popular in the USA.

lol the irony...

[tubby]

How am I changing my argument? I've been saying the same thing over and over again (in response to you saying the same thing over and over again). Congrats, it's the most popular sport in the world, but not in the US. It doesn't get TV coverage here because the general American public does not find it interesting. People think it's too slow and not enough scoring goes on. The same thing happened to the NHL (which is why it has lost popularity in recent years).

also I guess you forgot your comprehension again, I will keep proving my points if you keep trying to prove your points. It's not irony, it's me stating what I'm going to do.

[Anoxy]

How am I changing my argument? I've been saying the same thing over and over again (in response to you saying the same thing over and over again). Congrats, it's the most popular sport in the world, but not in the US. It doesn't get TV coverage here because the general American public does not find it interesting. People think it's too slow and not enough scoring goes on. The same thing happened to the NHL (which is why it has lost popularity in recent years).

also I guess you forgot your comprehension again, I will keep proving my points if you keep trying to prove your points. It's not irony, it's me stating what I'm going to do.
Exactly, it's not as popular here, but what I'm trying to say is that the USA's opinion doesn't mean squat to the other 95% of the world's population.

And yet, In 1994, when we hosted the FIFA World Cup, it had the highest attendance of any single-sport event in U.S. history.

[tubby]

Define attendance. FIFA World Cup entails multiple games. If multiple games are going on of course it will have more attendance than a say a single baseball or basketball game. Unless the stadium in use held like 100,000 people.

I guess I'm trying to say what do you mean by single sporting event. a world cup isn't a single event, it's like a tournament. a single event would be the super bowl or any random baseball game.

[Anoxy]

Single-sport event.

The world series is a single-sport event.

[Czechy]

It's getting thick up in this bitch.

[tubby]

Single-sport event.

The world series is a single-sport event.
the world series is 4-7 games

how many games were in the 1994 FIFA world cup?

[An Epic Name]

More people in the US have played competitive soccer at some point of their lives than football.

I don't have proof, but it is definitely something I've experienced in the places I've lived. Far more kids playing rec soccer than football. We have like 2 rec football leagues where I live, and something like 15+ soccer ones. I'm sure this stands true in many places in the country, if not the majority. It's more accessible than football is due to its very pick up and play nature.

And Rhys is right about why it isn't seen on TV here. There will be maybe 2 commercial breaks in an entire game of soccer, which just won't fly in the states. If that were to be overcame, I could see Soccer becoming the most popular sport in the USA within 10 years, especially if we do good in the World Cup.

[tubby]

Soccer is more parent friendly and doesn't require any equipment other than a soccer ball and shin guards? a lot of parents don't want their little kid playing football because it's violent. also soccer is available for girls to play whereas that's not the case with football(rare cases allow girls to play but come on, no one wants to see some huge ass girl play football).

Soccer has a huge recreational base but as kids get older they migrate to other sports (football, baseball, basketball and various other high school sports(field hockey, volleyball, lacrosse)).

[An Epic Name]

More people in my town/school go to Football games than soccer games, even though our soccer team is actually good. However, the majority of us socialize at the football games, whereas at the soccer games, we actually watch.

idk, just something else I wanted to add. Maybe we're just weird. I know places down south take football in HS a LOT more seriously than we do.

[Anoxy]

More people in my town/school go to Football games than soccer games, even though our soccer team is actually good. However, the majority of us socialize at the football games, whereas at the soccer games, we actually watch.

idk, just something else I wanted to add. Maybe we're just weird. I know places down south take football in HS a LOT more seriously than we do.
This.

My high school was the same way. We just socialized and barely watched the football game because it's so stop and go and there's so much opportunity for conversation.

I never really watched soccer games cause I was playing but there weren't as many people there even though we were very good, and when there were a lot of people, they were watching the game and cheering as opposed to sitting down and cuddling under blankets while holding conversations.

[An Epic Name]

More people in my town/school go to Football games than soccer games, even though our soccer team is actually good. However, the majority of us socialize at the football games, whereas at the soccer games, we actually watch.

idk, just something else I wanted to add. Maybe we're just weird. I know places down south take football in HS a LOT more seriously than we do.
This.

My high school was the same way. We just socialized and barely watched the football game because it's so stop and go and there's so much opportunity for conversation.

I never really watched soccer games cause I was playing but there weren't as many people there even though we were very good, and when there were a lot of people, they were watching the game and cheering as opposed to sitting down and cuddling under blankets while holding conversations.
You're west coast and I'm east coast so I'm gonna assume everyone in between did the same thing. :D

[Bean Dip]

I understand where you are coming from tubby, but you are comparing MLS popularity to every other soccer match being played around the world. MLS is a terrible league right now, they play ugly, boring soccer and isn't something American fans are too fond of. I am a huge soccer fan but i can honestly say i havent watched a full game of MLS soccer cause it's just terrible.

But that does not mean that soccer isn't popular in the USA. Most soccer fans are more interested in international teams and European leagues. The problem with that is ESPN doesn't hold the rights to any of those league games. The only right ESPN has is Champions League, UERO cup (which is every 4 years), and World cup (also every 4 years). Those games when shown on ESPN have great ratings. ESPN just got the rights to England Premier League and i guarantee they will be showing those games on ESPN.

When you look at World Cup ticket sales. The top 3 go like this. 1. South Africa (the WC is being held in SA so of course they have the most) 2. USA (now why would USA have the second most sales even though it isn't popular here?) 3. England (England always has the most support for their team). Also tubby soccer is so dangerous, One bad tackle could mess up your ankles for life, like me. Redundantly saying we live in America and it isn't popular here! is just dumb. We have people living in this country from all over the world and they bring their love for soccer with them. The only problem is, people have no way of watching their favorite league/team because it is not being broadcast ed. So what I'm trying to say is to a non soccer fan, it looks very unpopular because MLS is very unpopular, but our USA national team is very much popular, our games sell out and the viewing audience is great. Our womens NAtional team is ranked #1 in the world and won the world cup, they have a good following too.

[bosoxdanc]

More people in my town/school go to Football games than soccer games, even though our soccer team is actually good. However, the majority of us socialize at the football games, whereas at the soccer games, we actually watch.

idk, just something else I wanted to add. Maybe we're just weird. I know places down south take football in HS a LOT more seriously than we do.

My friend lived in FL for 2 years, and went to the #1 Football school in Florida, and they were in the top 10 in the country. They also take it a lot more seriously because all of the damn kids down there are fucking beasts, and are all going to D1 schools. He said everyday was football, that's it. Nothing else.